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[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And it is episode number
[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_02]: 183
[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_02]: 183? I thought this was 184
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[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Just a dollar folks just one one buck one dollar Larry say it
[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Somebody waking up
[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Larry are you there?
[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm still stuck on the inner mettle by Stephanie
[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry
[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_07]: The pie that we had was intermezzo adjacent
[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Intermezzo by Stephanie sounds so fantastic
[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And let me tell you audience. She looks great too. Well, Jesus Larry. Hey, boy. Calm down Larry
[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Anyway, we're gonna have to put you back in this seminar again
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[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, good to see you guys again. Yeah, it's been a busy time
[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_07]: If we're if we sound a little thrown off it's because we're a day ahead
[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, we're actually recording this at the studio a day early because
[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Wednesday of this month of this week is the effort of fair parade
[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Now I don't know if you live somewhere
[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_07]: Where there's a local fair
[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_07]: Not even a county fair. I mean there's there's like ten towns that have these little fairs in them in the fall
[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_07]: But they closed down us 322 right down the middle of Main Street
[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_07]: And there must be 500 people out on the street and the truck drivers that come up this road. No
[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_06]: They just don't come this way. That's all
[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Because it's a mess and it's just it's crazy. It's old school old town
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_07]: So I think it's like the fourth complete week in September or something like that is
[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_07]: And it is so if we if we recorded tomorrow, we would be trapped inside the fair parade
[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Because it can't be having that right around our studio
[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I was telling Tim
[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I've been to the effort of fair parade number of years ago and it's about a three three-and-a-half hour process
[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I think every high school band in a four or five county area is down here and they're competing
[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_04]: They're competing for prizes. Yeah places just unbelievable
[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_07]: Like like everywhere else. It's kind of down from that that was there was kind of the high water mark
[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_04]: We were coming down the hill tonight to take the detour around downtown
[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_04]: No, geez and Tim saw all the people down there just as oh my god. It's crazy
[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Right, it was crazy. It's really cool looking at night. Yeah come over that hill and just see the whole street lit up
[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_07]: It really was kind of cool, but I'm like
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's really good at a distance exactly
[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly where we're down a house tonight. Yes
[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that we've actually made the official announcement
[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, did we make that official? Well what what do we have a show? We had a special name for him
[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_07]: He was like an intern. What was it? No, he wasn't an intern. He was a
[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Special person permanent special guests things. So anyway, I don't shake young is our new co-host
[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_02]: We as you've noticed the last several episodes. He's been on and so tonight. He's not
[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_02]: he had some other obligations and
[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_02]: so we're here with Josh Jack Larry and myself and
[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_02]: We have no idea where we're going tonight, but sometimes those are some of our best episodes. So
[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's find out what's been going on
[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Masonically, we'll let you know since
[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_02]: We last gathered
[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Larry I'll start with you
[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, let's just say
[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Last week alone was one of the busiest Masonic weeks. I've had in a long time
[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Started off on Tuesday with some kind of Masonic
[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't even remember what it was Thursday ghosting gridiron Thursday afternoon
[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_04]: We went to get us Bergen checked in at the hotel for four days of a tall cedars
[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_04]: International tall sinners of London International Convention
[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And or days there and then on Sunday when we come home
[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I got to go to Ubar Grotto for pizza night
[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_04]: So needless to say I was telling Tim it took me to today to recover
[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_07]: I am those four I am personally ashamed of myself for how much of that pizza I hate
[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was when you drop when you drop 30 bucks for pizza you're gonna eat a bunch
[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean that's that was that was it was good. It really was not that was not delivery
[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_04]: It was some of the best I think I've ever had hats off to John rights restaurant
[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I trust on
[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Wonderful pizza oven man. He knows how to make them. It's unreal
[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: So if anybody in the area would like to help us increase our attendance by joining Ubar Grotto
[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Please let us know because we need to get those food prices down a little bit
[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, the more people we have the less money we pay so I mean I had some reason for you to join
[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I had some things the week before but last week just overwhelmed it and that that's that's what I've been doing
[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Jack
[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_07]: Well we had on Thursday last we had a third degree that I guided I haven't guided for a long time
[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_07]: And that was a lot of fun
[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Look forward to him seems seems very interested in who and what we are so we'll we'll look forward to that
[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_07]: We had then on Saturday
[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_07]: we had the
[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_07]: Oklahoma Indian degree team at the Zimboshrine and
[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_07]: It may be that for the time
[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_07]: There's been enough of them in the area
[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_07]: I think enough people have seen it that if you're if you're interested in that kind of thing
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_07]: You've probably seen them by now not saying in three years
[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_07]: There's not a whole crop of new guys that would go crazy to see them
[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_07]: But yeah attendance was was off a little bit and I think part of the reason is just saturation
[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_07]: They're great. They're great fun every time you see you see something different just like our lodges when they do
[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_07]: You know degree work and stuff but and then that was Saturday and then
[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Sunday we
[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Sunday we had ubar and lots of pizza. Yeah, it was a great time. We had some visitors at ubar from New York
[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_07]: One of them you might even call him our I don't know what would you call him our?
[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_07]: great step-grandfather
[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_07]: something like that
[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Victor man came down and he came down with Frank sports
[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Both we met I think when Frank was it a Zeem grotto
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Right and then he formed his own grotto out somewhere out on Long Island. Yeah, long garland long island
[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_07]: It's sorry guys. I have to do that. I'm from Jersey so I can pick on you
[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_07]: But anyway, he's also a grand historian
[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, oh so super proud of that. Yes, and for good reason
[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, he's got some fantastic
[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_07]: He had an display of all kinds of little, you know the chachkies that we get throughout our Masonic career
[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_07]: He has he has a huge selection of grotto memorabilia and that kind of stuff and
[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_04]: It's amazing that he packed up all that stuff
[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Which was a lot. He's he loves it had his history. I mean and he and Victor came down
[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's a lot of effort and a lot of work. Yeah, just to come down to a four-hour drive
[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Overnight in the hotel. Yeah, that was great. I only had one complaint
[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And I took this complaint directly to Victor. Why haven't you been on this show?
[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Pete and I tried to get him on pickers never been on the show never been on the show kid
[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Auditon been interviewed remotely from like the hotel open
[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Never been officially. Well, I remember when Barry was a remote. Oh, yeah
[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was on remote when he was doing opera and showing up. Yeah
[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_07]: Wow Victor was had I only known we would it you know
[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Making those arrangements
[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Because oh did you know yeah, no, you know why?
[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Victor said to me that he's over there making those arrangements with you right now Victor you owe me
[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_07]: If I made those arrangements, I'd love to know
[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_07]: But and then Monday Monday night we had instead of the usual Monday night light at the lodge or at my house
[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_07]: We went to school of instruction
[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_07]: We had a couple of new
[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Mastermasons in my lodge that would have met at my house
[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_07]: So instead we went and we met at at the school of instruction and we got we effort a lodge was
[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_07]: exemplifying the third degree
[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_07]: And that's that's a degree. I'm very particular about so I like to see it done, right?
[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Josh how about you?
[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_08]: nothing
[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Officially Masonic that I haven't really done since last show, but we looked for you to grow out
[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I didn't come I was going to I we can see your house. We know yeah
[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_08]: We could see your house. I smelled the pizza and I was being drawn, but unfortunately I didn't make it
[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_08]: But I did have some some fellowship with with some masons
[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_08]: And I've had a few
[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_08]: Conversations about you know
[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Different Masonic things with different people, but again nothing nothing official and if that's not cryptic
[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I mean it's just you know, that's just practicing Freemason. Yes, it is
[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Counts only only about yeah 2% of it happens inside the lot
[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_08]: I
[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Just mean no official meeting
[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_08]: So you had a busy week doing stuff. Oh, I mean like I felt like I was in meetings with with watching Larry's commentary
[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: So since our last episodes I've been rather busy with a lot of
[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Eureka West Shore Lodge number 302
[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Had in our last episode we had just had our stated meeting
[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_02]: We conferred a third degree did that sound like a radio serial from the 30s
[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Veronica said
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway Eureka 302
[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Holder 168th anniversary banquet and ladies night
[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Up at the Scottish Rite ballroom
[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Had about 115 people there. It's a really good time had by all some great music by the West Shore Symphony quintet
[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Lot of fun a lot of fun
[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And then last week
[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_02]: District 3 held its annual low veil of which my lodge was one of the co-sponsors of
[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_02]: We had 103 people out in a big cornfield
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Conferring a third degree
[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_02]: One of the past masters from Orstown Lodge actually conferred the third degree on his son who had
[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_02]: He had previously conferred the first and second degrees like a year or two earlier
[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And then life kind of got in the way
[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And so he was able to complete his third degree at that low veil and then two nights later
[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Up in Mifflin town
[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_02]: District 19 held a low veil and I believe this is their second one. They're building on the success of the first
[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_02]: These outdoor degrees I think are great opportunities for guys to come together in an atmosphere
[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a little different than a regular lodge room because the dress tends to be you know
[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Slacks and a collared shirt as opposed to coat and tie and so on
[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And this time of year in particular we were blessed with good weather at night
[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_02]: So it was very nice to be outdoors
[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_02]: and then the next day while Jack was at the
[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Oklahoma Indian degree
[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Event I was out in Johnstown conducting a secretary and treasure training for the good folks in district 21 out there
[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I so enjoyed my time with them and
[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Got got a good group of secretaries and treasures all around but it was good to get to see those guys again and then
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_02]: participated in the aforementioned pizza eat-off at
[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_02]: E-bar grotto
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_02]: So again busy time
[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll figure out what we're gonna talk about and we'll be right back
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[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_07]: And
[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_07]: We're back
[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Welcome back and sometimes we just pick up a topic on on the fly and we talk about it
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_07]: And that's what we're gonna do. We're get we got a couple things hopefully that'll kind of thread together to form a
[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_07]: Cogent episode. I don't know that's up to Josh after we get done
[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_07]: But
[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Those of you that listen to this show a lot you hear when we go around the horn to begin with John and we asked Josh
[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_07]: What he's done? He says well did the show?
[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Like that's a non thing, right?
[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_07]: But okay, you didn't go to a meeting you didn't you didn't get a tender reunion
[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_07]: You didn't have a role in some event somewhere that
[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Not everybody does everything
[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Right not everybody should do everything
[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_07]: But you do what you do to contribute in whatever way you do, right? So
[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_07]: For you to do this show. I mean I couldn't I couldn't put this show together like you do
[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't have the skills. I don't have the equipment. I don't have any of that
[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_07]: But you do and we we appreciate and this isn't like love Josh day or anything
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_07]: But what I'm what I'm saying is that in life
[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_07]: We need to demonstrate outside the lodge those lessons
[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Wait, never mind
[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Right because it's part of me. It's who I am and that's what makes a difference in your Masonic journey
[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_07]: They say that there's two important dates in Freemasonry
[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_07]: the first is when you get it and the second is when you get it right and
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_07]: There's it's fun when that happens but
[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_07]: But Tim read something to us just as we were sitting before the show started
[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_07]: And it's it's sort of the same question from two different perspectives
[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_07]: And I want to read I don't know think read read you want to do one and talk about it
[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_07]: And then do the other and talk about it or do you want to read both questions? I can do it
[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_07]: We could do it either way. What do you think so they know how the questions are gonna be different?
[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know this is gonna be right heads or tails
[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_07]: Tails okay you in we'll we'll read
[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_07]: The questions together first okay, and then we'll go back and answer the question
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_02]: So how I came up with these questions was actually something Jack had said on a previous episode
[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And it actually fits very well with what Jack just did in terms of
[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_02]: acknowledging
[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_02]: What Josh does for us?
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_02]: We were we had actually came from a discussion about how to recruit members
[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_02]: We were talking about how do we get members and I believe it was Jack you said we just need to be better Mason's
[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Be Masons live it live it if we live what we say people will be knocking our doors down to get in I believe that okay, so
[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_02]: it actually
[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Did I provoke you Tim you did oh my god I provoke Tim
[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm deeper thought but I've also been promoted by some things that I've read online recently
[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and so it actually led me to the first of these questions
[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And then I in my opinion I refined it with the second one
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_02]: But the second the first one is good too the second one asks a different question
[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_02]: So the first one is how do we as Freemasons in a world of supercharged social media?
[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Where many brethren feel compelled to share every thought entering their brain about every subject
[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_02]: best reflect our Masonic principles to each other and
[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_02]: A potential members
[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Uniquely passive aggressive, but I like it
[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_02]: So that was just kind of the free flow of thought
[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Of developing that when you read them to me though, that was the second one it was I just read them to you in the order
[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_04]: They were on the page talk about this before the show
[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_02]: For yes Larry to that we were gonna have it on 10 seconds
[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and we told you while we were sitting at the day listening
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_07]: So anyway, so you changing your mind about
[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_07]: No, let's go ahead so so again the gist of this is is
[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_07]: How do you
[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_07]: How do you demonstrate these Masonic principles principles?
[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_07]: You know in a in a social media world to each other and to potential members
[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so and then the other side of the question was I read this okay
[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_02]: So how do we as Freemasons best reflect our Masonic principles such as
[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_02]: reverence for God devotion to country integrity justice
[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Tolerance and service to mankind in a world of supercharged social media
[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so it is it takes the same
[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_07]: When you read them to me you read them in reverse order and it had a different it had had different connect for me
[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_07]: right because it it that the second question
[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Offers the opportunity to opt out of the social media world
[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_07]: Right, right. I mean the way the question is read. Uh-huh it leads you Josh. Did you hear that part of it?
[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Josh nods let the record show Josh
[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_07]: But it I mean to me there there's there two different questions, right? It's how do you absolutely?
[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_07]: You have to live in that social media world
[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Larry you live in that world
[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_07]: I do yeah, you're on Facebook all the time
[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_07]: You have social media you're you belong to dozens and dozens of groups and chats
[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And all kinds of stuff. How do I I still don't understand the Tim? How do you demonstrate masonic your masonic?
[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_07]: character on
[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Those pages or do you maybe you're one of those people that momentarily goes brain dead and and starts posting
[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_04]: You know really horrible stuff. I do I have the same
[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Which part of that that we live with in lodge and all I'm gonna talk about politics
[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not gonna talk about religion and I'm not gonna gamble. Oh
[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_07]: There you go. Oh, yeah, I cut out a third of the internet though. All right. Come on. Yeah
[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not gonna do things to do here. I'm not gonna do it as much as I want to I won't
[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Mean I feel I want to reach out and choke people but I won't do that
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think we've all fallen into the trap digitally something digitally digital and
[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes without giving a lot of thought to it respond. Oh my goodness
[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_02]: It's so easy and it's so easy and that's the problem is it is so easy right and then
[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Numerous times you then live to regret and think oh man, maybe shouldn't have said that so
[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_07]: So like biochemically yes
[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_07]: What social media does to our brains and and I'm no biochemist and I'm not even gonna pretend to explain anything here
[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_07]: But but when you when you hit that the blue arrow, you know that releases so much dopamine in your brain
[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean you might as well just shoot the plunger full deep
[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_07]: You know because you're that's what you're doing. You're getting these instantaneous dopamine hits and it changes your behavior
[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Man, it's it's Pavlov all over the place. Yeah, it's crazy
[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_07]: There's tons of good good good research research on this. Yeah, yeah
[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Dopamine and social media it's that's the topic Josh
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Josh are you there Josh? I just have a hard time, you know
[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Like the social media thing actually taking it like cuz for me
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_08]: It's always been a joke and even my my existence on social media is kind of a joke
[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_08]: It's not even really my name or any anything right?
[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_08]: So almost everything that comes out for me from social media is probably like a joke. Okay, silly
[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_02]: So those of us that know you know that yeah, but
[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, I don't really have too much to do with like Masonic stuff and some of the jokes
[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't have an idea what the hell you're talking about
[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm a little weird, but it's a generational thing
[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Way over my head. Yeah, I did spend a good good amount of time as a troll but
[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm embarrassed I'm embarrassed to ask you what do you mean?
[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Good question, what's a troll Josh we're gonna learn about that next week next show oh
[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_08]: Just you know kind of like antagonizing people with like questions and
[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Just messing with people think think about the the image of trolling right let's see it symbol symbolically
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_07]: There's a giant hook in the water that's being dragged through and anything that gets in its way is gonna get snagged
[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_07]: That's trolling
[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Well and part of the development of this questions is as much a confession I guess from my perspective of
[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_02]: How to not do some of this stuff right?
[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Not feeling compelled to respond to every
[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Thing that you see or everything that you experience or what did I put up? I?
[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Created the ding oh, yeah, right?
[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I was so deep
[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_07]: I was getting I was way down the the spiral around the drain and
[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_07]: And I finally just one day. I was like wow
[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_07]: no
[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_07]: And I deleted everything that I was about to post and I just typed
[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_07]: ding
[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Just just to get the hell out of it
[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_07]: You know just like so if if you're ever seeing me on social media, and you see ding that means like I just
[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Saved you a scathing reply that would have embarrassed you and your grandchildren
[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Just
[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_07]: You know but it's just why it's there's no wind to that right?
[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean there is no wind well and my concern is that I embarrass myself
[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God and our fraternity and everything we're supposed to be about
[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_02]: So I've really tried to back off that kind of stuff, and it's just it's it's again. We're in a
[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_02]: crazy world right now crazy times and
[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It's tough
[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_02]: It's tough out there
[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_07]: so
[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_07]: No, it's you know, I mean why do we do this?
[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_07]: Not not the show in particular, but this masonry stuff. I mean, you know
[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_07]: It it you have to ask the hard questions like we were at school of instruction under the district deputy is talking about
[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_07]: You know digging digging down deep and doing the the self-analysis the self-awareness stuff and
[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_07]: creating a program for moving forward and
[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_07]: It it takes work. It takes work to keep a lot of Chelsea like that
[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and it's all about again getting back to being a better mason a better man
[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Takes a lot of reflection
[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_02]: takes a lot of self
[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_02]: examination and
[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Finding the ways to smooth that rough asher
[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and I think honestly I think social media takes away our our
[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_07]: The our time to do that it takes away our motivation to do that
[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_07]: we end up drifting in in a in a you know a vague current of
[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_07]: You know modern
[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_07]: Thought or society or whatever?
[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_07]: And then you realize that you've drifted way too far down that river and you can't there's no getting back
[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_07]: right which
[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_07]: For whatever but it
[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Social media limits your ability I believe to think long range
[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Because everything happens in you know what 114 words or whatever it's not that anymore, but characters
[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_07]: But but everything is comes at you so fast and and even the little video reels that you know we scroll through
[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_07]: What is that a minute two minutes? Maybe yeah, is that enough to write the Constitution? No
[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_07]: No, I mean it just you know we've lost the ability
[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_07]: To pay attention we've lost the ability to pay attention to the things that we need to be paying attention to
[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_07]: I'll know how as a statement. I have a cigar stain on my pants. Well Larry
[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_08]: We've lost the ability to pay attention
[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Somebody gets it somebody gets somebody gets it but no that's I mean, you know, that's what social media does to us
[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_07]: it
[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_07]: It's it's I
[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Hope that there's a swing at some point because we're just being it's like a tsunami of
[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Social, you know influencers and all that kind of stuff and these are these are 16 17 18 year old kids
[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_07]: That are that are changing the world that us old efforts live in
[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_07]: right, I mean
[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_07]: And it's it's inexorable
[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_07]: It's it's a it's crazy to watch
[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Such a weird time here. I used to hear my
[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_04]: grandparents
[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Years and years. This is a long time ago. Obviously talk about
[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_04]: things that
[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Changed or things that would need to change and they always went back to World War one or World War two
[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_04]: How'd that change the world and I can remember in the 50s my grandparents saying
[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe we need another war
[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm to change things the way they should be
[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And I used to think oh my god, how can you even think like that? Right really? Yeah, but that was the mindset back
[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_07]: We thought I kind of thought and you know talking to her my wife
[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_07]: And I agree that we really hoped that 9-11 would be that yeah thing
[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it wasn't that really it was for a moment
[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_07]: It was momentary and then it just got you know
[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_07]: It just disintegrated like and now it's forgotten like I posted the other day. Yeah, there are people
[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Right now who can are old enough to vote that we're not even born yet when that happened. Yeah, yeah, right?
[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_07]: So, you know never forget doesn't mean anything
[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_07]: To that to that gen that new generation
[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Unfortunately my grandparents their thought processes have me thinking that
[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_04]: We're not in a good war but not a good place in this world right now and something like this could easily happen
[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think the I just don't want anything to cut off my drug supplies
[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_07]: The magic of CBD yes
[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that it's kind of like
[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_08]: You know they're kind of two
[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Two examples of the same thing like you know, we're talking about like 9-11 and you know how
[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, it's not even really present for anybody anymore road. Yeah, but
[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that's just that's another example of like the attention span thing and how quickly
[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_08]: Things are happening and coming at us all the time
[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_08]: Think about even just thinking about how much the world has changed like technologically since 2001, right?
[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_08]: I think we're cell phones were at
[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_08]: 15 years
[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Swing right 15 years of sidles when 1945 to 1960 the Beatles right
[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, so that's a 15 year swing. So from the Beatles to 75. That's post-woodstock and you're you're now into the
[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Next generation, right?
[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_07]: so it
[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_07]: It's progressive and I know that my parents parents probably thought that the world was going to hell in a handbasket
[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, they did they used to tell me when I was a kid. Yeah, sure. So it's a perfect, you know, it's a perfect
[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_07]: You know can't stick your toe in the same river twice kind of thing
[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_07]: It the world is changing under our feet
[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_07]: We can't really do anything about that except stand up on the principles that we carry with us, right? Here it is
[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_07]: That's the only thing that we have is who are we and we are whoever we decide to make ourselves to be and
[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_07]: In this seat in this sea of sifting sand that we've all built our castles on
[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, it's it's the core of you that is gonna keep that house standing
[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_07]: And that that's why I'm here
[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_07]: And I I
[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Strive to impart that on other people because it's really hard concept. I
[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Frequently
[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_02]: reread that list again to myself. Mm-hmm just to remind myself because you're right
[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_02]: we we don't have a long attention span and
[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_02]: By the time I finish reading that list, I'm like, oh
[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm not hitting the send button on this
[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_07]: Some of the guys that
[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_07]: write the interesting stuff the interesting quasi spiritual
[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Meditative contemplation type stuff about Freemasonry those guys like the posters on the wall behind us, right?
[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_07]: The of the tarot and that and that kind of stuff
[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_07]: They're the they're the few they're among the few
[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Who can sit still and meditate and and think long for a long period of time on a particular thing, right?
[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_07]: And they can and this is how artists create. They just they they spin off of that
[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_07]: That moment
[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_07]: When they can create something what are you doing Tim?
[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Tim's taking a selfie. Oh my god
[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_07]: Social me anyway, anyway, so stop me. I'm rambling but
[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_07]: I I love this craft and it gives us so many so many cool tools that
[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_07]: And training to use them
[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, well, let's take a quick break and we'll come back. I'm sorry everybody
[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be back
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[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_07]: To quiet time with larry merris
[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_04]: It is a powerful moment
[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_04]: To stand at this monument this morning erected to honor the memory of 34 000 pennsylvania soldiers
[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_04]: In 1863 at the battle of gettysburg
[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a somber reflection on our nation's history and its grand design
[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_04]: towering over
[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Once war-torn battlefield its granite dome is crowned by a bronze Nike figure
[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_04]: The goddess of victory and peace
[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I read that in a gesture to the biblical passage of isaias
[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_04]: two four two hyphen for whatever that is
[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_06]: You know that religion thing reading the bible
[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Which they say they beat their swords into plow shares
[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_04]: The bronze used to cast the likey statue came from melted down cannons
[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_04]: With our sword in one hand and palm branch and the other she stands as a majestic symbol of victory through peace
[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, geez see
[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_06]: And scene
[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_04]: All right, you didn't even give me chance to finish it
[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_06]: I think we just lost all our listeners. You disintegrated larry. What happened?
[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Like there's a puddle of larry under there. It didn't work out real well did it?
[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_02]: So thanks to our producer for saving you from uh, it's a reminder of that larry. Do you want to give credit to
[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I did that was a portion of it. I was a portion of an actually very good speech
[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_04]: By our own john bridegroom who was the senior grand warden of the grand lodge of indiana who was in here for the tall cedars
[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_04]: A great guy
[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And I do I do have the entire speech here
[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Which I would be more than happy to share with anybody if they're interested
[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_04]: It's really it's really brilliant and i'm understanding from everybody that was at the monument that morning
[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_04]: It was well received. He did a great job. He's a good speaker
[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_04]: God damn dynamic and he wants to come back on the show
[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And I didn't want to get into this too much because I definitely want him back on the show
[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, he's is he grand master of these or he's in the line right in indiana. He's in the line his actual time
[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_04]: He's grand warden. Oh
[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, jeez. He's kind of a big deal. He's the next guy. Yeah, yeah
[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, they do it a little bit differently. Yeah, we'll have him in
[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely see see so larry do you have permission to broadly share his uh speech?
[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, he shared it with ken hudson. So therefore I think it's terrible. He shared it with ken
[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_07]: If you just let you know if you share anything with ken hudson
[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_07]: It's out there larry's larry's gonna put it on the show
[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_07]: Just so you know
[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, can you make something of that? So the run up to that was just hilarious
[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_02]: It was so perfect. You know larry you had one job
[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_07]: One job I can't wait to hear how you cut this together
[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_07]: This this you will earn your salary here my friend. Let me just say
[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Because we don't pay you
[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_07]: so
[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_04]: All right, I'll be I'll be better prepared for the next
[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_07]: So what do we want to talk about? Um, are there any are there any monstrous uh masonic like things that we want to talk about right now
[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_07]: How to fix it
[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody seems to have their own ideas about how to fix it
[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to fix it. It's great. The problem is as we started at the beginning the way to
[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Fix it is to live it
[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and uh
[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Live it live it if you live it live it it'll fix it. Okay. That leads me to have little frogs in tuxedos
[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that leads me to larry's having a movement
[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_04]: My wife belongs to a woman sorority or what for lack of return of whatever you're going to call it
[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And I won't name it and I won't necessarily
[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Do that, but it's interesting because
[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_04]: We have a fellow who was married to one of the ladies that was a member
[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_04]: and once that lady
[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_04]: dies
[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_04]: The husband's just cast aside
[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's we kind of felt
[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_04]: We know the gentleman we invited him a couple of functions for this club that we belong to it's a wine club
[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll be honest
[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And uh because his wife did so much for this club and this sorority that we felt he should continue to be invited
[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_04]: But what happens is if you're not a member you don't get emails and they don't want you to come to these anymore
[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Because it's a woman's thing
[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And we feel that that's totally wrong and it was a discussion that my wife had a clubhouse
[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_04]: A few days ago where they were saying we don't think that's right either
[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_04]: But these rules and regulations in my wife mentioned
[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Well in freemasonry
[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_04]: If if a husband dies the widow's invited to all kinds of functions afterward
[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And they actually help take care of her and they do things for her
[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And these women whose husbands are not freemasons said that is a wonderful thing
[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, it is it is so essentially
[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_04]: through my wife that we're we're
[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_04]: We're we're we're showing him how we live and what we believe in
[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_04]: By our actions and by our deeds. That's what we're talking about. So that's that's live it exactly do it live it
[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, live it. That's yeah, so we'll get a shirt live it live it. Yeah
[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Live it
[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I like bourbon and cigars and maybe three people. That's perfect
[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll make you a collage right Larry is a collage
[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_02]: So jack yo, how are things an effort to lodge?
[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_07]: Uh, wow, there's a there's a cannon shot. Um
[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Like every lodge we have our we have our struggles and but we've got a great team
[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_07]: The guys are the guys are friends
[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Which is nice
[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_07]: and
[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, we just um
[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_07]: I think I would I would love for someone to take on the mantle of
[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Of caring for the widows
[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think we've done that in
[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I know we haven't done a very good job of it in the 20 years. I'm amazing
[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_07]: But I think it was long before that. I don't think we could did a good enough job with for the ladies
[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_07]: Um, so I hope someone will take that on but um
[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_07]: Save that. Um, it's a great lodge. I'm I'm super proud of my lodge. I love taking people around. I think aesthetically it's beautiful
[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Functionally, it's great. We don't have a hall association. So we're not nitty-nitty about
[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_07]: You know every every paper towel that gets used or every, you know plastic cup that gets thrown away
[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_07]: So it's great. Um, love my lodge
[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_02]: So you mentioned widows and I will hear remark however
[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_02]: That um at our recent uh banquet. We actually had more widows attend than we've had in a long time
[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_02]: That's great. But it has to be you have to be proactive about it. You made that happen. Yeah, absolutely
[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And one of the lessons that we learned
[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh from our really good friend Stephanie
[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh is to not refer to them as widows
[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_02]: We refer to them as spouses of our deceased brethren
[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's what we're doing in our lodge and on our page and and it really like that
[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Pete's passing really did bring that up because we do have
[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_02]: a few younger
[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_02]: ladies who've lost their spouses
[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and
[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_02]: The term widow is one that
[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Predates my generation. It's a harsh word. It is like grammatically. It's a harsh word and um
[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_07]: I I think um
[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_07]: But no, she made us aware of that when Pete passed. Yeah, and I try to respect that going
[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely. Yeah, it's uh, it's an interesting
[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Different perspective and like like Tim's lodge. We once a year we celebrate our our wives who wives have who lost
[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Departed brother. Yeah, it's a banquet. We bring them in and it's always well attended
[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_04]: We honor them with the blue slipper pin. We have a ceremony. It's it's
[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you make them set at the same table?
[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a that's a you put them all together at the same table at the banquet. Yeah, we're not going to do that anymore
[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Good idea. We don't want to do anymore
[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Our our chairman for that
[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_04]: project
[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Has learned his lesson. Yeah
[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_07]: So are we are we saying that it's it's uh, it's more comfortable if they sort of well meld into the group
[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, my experience is it's better to let them sit where they want to sit
[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, there was for a long time
[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_02]: There were a group of these ladies that would meet
[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Throughout the year
[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Every couple months or even once a month they'd get together and they'd do something wonderful
[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And so when they would come to the banquet
[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_02]: They would sit together. It would sit together. It was no big deal
[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and it was actually I think this was during my year in the east
[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_02]: um
[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_02]: We attempted that and they were like
[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't assign us a seat. Let us sit with who we want to sit. Let us we've got other friends in this room
[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Let us unless there's a reserve table where someone's purchased a whole table for a group or whatever
[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And so we've been doing that ever since and I thought that was a a good move
[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_02]: um
[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_02]: To acknowledge um
[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I will promote a program that we've got coming up at our october meeting
[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And that is the director of the
[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna forget this
[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_02]: The person over the
[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Widow's program, I guess who you would say at the masonic charities
[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Linda Jackson is coming to do a program. Okay
[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_02]: In retrospect, I wish we had done this at our banquet
[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_02]: But we're going to do it as a large program before the meeting and invite everybody to bring their spouses with them
[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_02]: To the fellowship meal and so on
[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_02]: If you're a lodge out there and you've never had someone come and talk about
[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_02]: The programs offered particularly in pennsylvania by the masonic charities
[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I would encourage you to look that up. You can find that very easily on the website
[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Linda Jackson, I believe is her name and
[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You can reach her through the
[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Pennsylvania I wonder if that would be a good program for the ladies because we
[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_07]: Our current grandmaster is promoting strongly open installation of officers
[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, but there's a period of time when the guests really can't come in the lodge room because we have to conduct a small bit of business
[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_07]: So they're in a separate room somewhere. I wonder if that would be a good
[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Anything like that would be awesome. Yeah
[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_07]: That's a thought. Okay. Yeah
[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_02]: So how are is this let me ask you this you mentioned the open installations my lodge has been doing open installations for
[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Since they were 12 years since they've been allowed. Yeah
[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't I think we were in that first year. It was permissive the one year
[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_02]: We took advantage of that and we've never looked back
[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I know some lodges are struggling with that but have you continued to do open installations? Yeah, we always do
[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and then uh, I know lambroville has uh, yeah
[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I think we've done open installation every year except for I think maybe like one year we did
[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_06]: It might have been in coveted. Then there's the year that we did the installation for you
[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was the misuniculated installation. That was amazing. That was that's one of my most memorable installations. That was great
[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that was an open installation. Yeah, right. So it was
[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, um, we used when we first started it
[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_02]: um
[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_02]: My predecessors my two predecessors
[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Did it and the way they handled it first is the incoming master could decide
[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Whether they wanted an open or close and once we got past about four or five in a row of us
[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody was like, yeah, we're just going to do open from now. I won't even give anybody a choice on this
[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_02]: This is because our crowds we actually get a good crowd at that because we talk about it
[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we promote it at our banquet, you know last week
[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_02]: At the end of the
[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Evening, you know, the master said
[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we've got several
[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Upcoming events and we definitely want to make you aware of our open installation in december
[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Where we invite
[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone from the public. So not only the people in this room, but invite your friends
[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_07]: We every year have a memorial service. I think most lodges do
[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, not as many as ours. It didn't do it for a long time. Really? I really wish I've seen some really good ones
[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_07]: I I saw
[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_07]: Sorrows, I mean ours is ours is very cool
[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_07]: We we bring out a table and we have candles on the table for each
[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Member who's past hearing a bell for each. Yeah each time it's his dates are recited or whatever. Anyway
[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Um, I was in mariland for their grand installation and they did they had a lodge of sorrows
[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Um, and they had a very cool
[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Um involvement of the ladies the spouses of our deceased brethren who participated in the ceremony
[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_07]: And there was a candle that they lit. They didn't really light a candle. They like turned the barn it on turned on. Yeah
[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_07]: But they went through and and a little light for for each of their spouses and
[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Deposited a flower on the altar and it was it was really pretty. I'd love to do something more than what we do
[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_07]: Here in africa
[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_07]: It's a pretty it's cool and it's meaningful and it's it's a very solemn night
[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_07]: But I think there's uh, I think we could take it to the next level
[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_02]: That actually brings up a good point. We've done this before and we don't always get a lot of response from it
[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_02]: But if you've got if your lodge does something really cool. Yeah with
[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Your widows slash
[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_02]: spouses of deceased brethren post something on our website and share it or on our facebook page rather
[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_02]: larry you gotta yeah
[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Now
[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes when they do that ceremony gets I call it lumpy
[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Till the guys get the table out and some of them trip on the leg of the table
[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And they set it up and then they put the candle and they can't get the lighter going to light the candles
[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_04]: 15 minutes pass
[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_04]: and it's
[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_04]: They can't and finally we do it and all of a sudden after all that
[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Circus activity it loses its meaning
[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_07]: Um, this is this is an excellent lesson in the value of rehearsal. Yes
[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, and yes. Yeah, I I just am I right
[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I wanted I mean jack's right
[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah
[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god
[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I speaking of things that need to be rehearsed. Yeah our show if you are well, we definitely tried that
[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_02]: That's not helped
[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_02]: If you are ever asked to be the chaplain at a lodge meeting
[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And told all you have to do is read these prayers
[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Please read them like three times to yourself before the meeting starts. Yeah, that's a good one. Oh, I'm telling you what in the last
[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_02]: month
[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I've heard some butchered
[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_02]: red prayers and it's because
[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_02]: They're reading it for the first time
[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_07]: Out loud in front of the lodge. It's not like they've heard it 3,000 times in their lives, right?
[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, they have trouble so read him
[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I think the chaplain or our lodge hasn't memorized at least that's opening opening and closing
[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_06]: But a chaplain should have it memorized somebody's sitting in
[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I was chaplain of my lodge in south carolina
[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Really? I had to memorize three prayers. Yeah, okay
[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was not easy for me. I get it which consequently was why i'm not an officer of my sonic lodge
[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Memory work is tough for me
[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_02]: What?
[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Ding
[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_02]: He dinged you
[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Alrighty then. Oh, I've been dinged. Yes. All right. Well, we we have some duchy dug
[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, we have no copious dues tonight because we have no one that we can play with
[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we can play with ourselves and waltz is on you can play with yourself
[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Um, I didn't say that
[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Hold on we can play with ourselves. I don't I don't know how much somebody wrote a song about that, didn't he?
[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Chuck berry. Yeah, as a matter of fact it was
[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_02]: um
[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll take one quick break here for duchy dug and when we come back
[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll start to wrap up tonight
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[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello brethren duchy duck is here again to give an update from my lodge the broken plow number 377
[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Boy, do I have a story for all of you
[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_01]: The brethren of the broken plow had a very enjoyable and restful summer off from labor
[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Surprisingly nothing weird happened in our valley for two whole months
[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But the incident-free streak ended at our september stated meeting
[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_01]: The members of the broken plow were proud to have a contingent of visiting brethren from a cadia lodge number
[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_01]: 287 located in bar harbor main
[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_01]: The group came down to visit because brother Jonas Hummer
[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Grew up in our valley, but now lives up there due to marrying a new england girl
[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I
[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Brother Jonas brought three of his fellow main brothers to our meeting
[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_01]: We were all excited to meet each other
[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Compare and contrast our rituals and to simply enjoy each other's company
[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_01]: The meeting itself went just fine a typical september meeting
[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Some of the junior officers made rusty mistakes given the time off
[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_01]: But nothing that elicited any heavy sighs from any past masters on the sidelines
[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_01]: We all retired to the social hall to take off our ties and chew the fat
[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Our refreshments for the evening came from mrs. Becker
[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Brother ben becker's wife
[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_01]: She made one of the pentaving it touches culinary gifts to this world three dozen fresh whoopie pies
[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Frappecker was well known for her baking abilities and we all looked forward to chomping into those white and black cakey delicacies
[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_01]: After an appropriate blessing we all lined up
[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_01]: We invited our visitors from main to the front of the line
[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Visiting brother eric anderson saw the desserts turned to the group and exclaimed
[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_01]: My brother you truly are thoughtful hosts a great evening of free masonry capped off with a spread of main's culinary gift to the world
[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_01]: whoopie pies
[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Now we all looked each other and started to laugh thinking of course that he was joking
[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But he wasn't
[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_01]: For those of you uninformed brethren, there's a mighty argument over who gets to claim the whoopie pie
[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_01]: We pentamin at dutch have always insisted that the treat was invented by pentamin at dutch women
[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Using up extra cake batter as early as the beginning of the 20th century
[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_01]: One of our brothers quickly exclaimed
[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Nice choke brother eric. Now take a whoopie pie and sit down others are waiting
[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_01]: This statement did not go over well with the main contingent
[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Another visiting brother brother mark murdo said
[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_01]: The whoopie pie is from main. It is our official state dessert
[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_01]: LeBaddie's bakery in lewiston main has been serving them since
[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_01]: 1925 and the world's largest whoopie pie ever made was baked in portland main in 2011 weighing
[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_01]: 1062 pounds the story of the whoopie pie begins and ends in the great state of main
[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_01]: The other main brothers cheered
[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Brother amos apple schnitz past master took to the floor to defend the honor of our commonwealth
[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_01]: He said my dear brothers from main
[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I laud your zeal affection and dedication to main
[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_01]: But like most things that new englanders say and believe it is not true
[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_01]: The origins of the humble whoopie pie lie deep in the soil of our beloved pennsylvania
[00:57:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me remind you that you are guests in the state that birthed our country's independence
[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Saved our country in the fields at gettisburg and built our country with steel from the shores of the aligany
[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_01]: The whoopie pie is as pennsylvania has ben franklin a cheer went up from our brother
[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Brother mark quickly said
[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Well put brother amos, but ben franklin was originally from new england the main contingent erupted in cheers
[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Brother amos shot back
[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You are right
[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But old ben got out of new england as fast as he could came to pennsylvania and never went back
[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Again cheers from the pennsylvania masons erupted
[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_01]: At this point brother becker jumped into the discussion
[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Brethren let us drop this ridiculous argument. He said my wife lovingly made these whoopie pies to be enjoyed not argued over
[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And if we don't dig into these soon my blood sugar is going to drop to dangerous levels. So let's eat
[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We all applauded brother becker's comments and we shook hands and enjoyed our whoopie pies
[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So just where does the story of the origin of the whoopie pie lie?
[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess we will never know but I can honestly state that I don't care where they are from. They are delicious
[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Till next time work hard stay plumb and hot in the lights when you leave the room
[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_01]: To learn more about the pennsylvania dutch language culture and history
[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Please visit my website pa dutch 101.com or my youtube channel. Just search doug main
[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And we're back. Uh, thanks to dutchie doug. We're back for uh another episode from the broken plaw lodge
[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_02]: plaw
[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It's always fun to hear from those brethren. Nice. All right, so uh
[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Just want to promote our next episode because I think it's going to be like super fantastic
[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, um our new co-host jake yung is going to talk to us about
[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_02]: All things you want to describe it jake uh, drosh?
[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, probably uh, it's mostly about uh, good practices. Um like
[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_08]: In in the current internet world good internet practices. Yeah, I'll not to get your identity stolen. Yeah
[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_08]: It extends it's already much beyond that it's already stolen. Yeah, it's more good good practices for tech
[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Techs a how to how to how to take our masonic lessons and put them into the world
[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Technology try to mess with you larry. You're never willing winning that million dollars
[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Sorry larry, and if there was a prince he wouldn't be reaching out to you
[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_08]: From nigeria is that okay? Exactly. That's the one
[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, so what do we got going on now in the next couple of weeks prior to
[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_02]: uh
[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Jake's episode jack harley. I ask you uh, I say on to the um
[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_07]: What do I have going on regular masonic stuff every monday night effort at lodge seven o'clock be there learn stuff
[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Um
[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_07]: The show is coming out. We got next thing is stated meeting
[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_07]: um, although I have
[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_07]: I have a um district deputies
[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Retreat that I have to do at some point
[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah for chapter for chapter because i'm a district deputy
[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to be a district deputy grand high priest
[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_07]: And they take you to some indoctrination camp or something. I don't know what happens there, but
[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Marshmallows and s'mores and stuff. I think
[01:01:05] [SPEAKER_07]: um
[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_07]: And then just to put it out there put it on your calendars because I'd love to have the room full or at least four people there
[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_07]: My installation will be january
[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_07]: No
[01:01:23] [SPEAKER_07]: 16th thursday
[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_07]: January 16th at the lancaster masonic center. I will be in
[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Stalled as district deputy grand master and there will be intermezzo chocolates to be enjoyed
[01:01:35] [SPEAKER_07]: I'll be there afterwards. She's gonna do a like a dessert buffet thing
[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, josh
[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Definitely gonna be chocolate there. Definitely gonna be chocolate. You put your order in now
[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_07]: I'll make sure whatever you like is there if there's going to be chocolate. There's gonna be okay
[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_08]: We're gonna dip you in it. Uh, what do I have coming up?
[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, I think I have we have lodge meeting coming up before the next show
[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Lodge it is uh first tuesday
[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Past master's night. Yes, it is
[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll try to show up. Oh good. I always try to show up the big one is in november
[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, well, i'm definitely going to that one. That's that's the big there's no question
[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay, you know you're on election night election 2024
[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, Larry merris
[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_08]: Will finally be receiving
[01:02:25] [SPEAKER_08]: Dental no the 50 year pin
[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: An election night 2024 I will be at a precinct
[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you will closing it down to transport. Well, I've got my priorities tim. What did you say that was?
[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It's election night first tuesday first tuesday
[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_07]: You've had it on your calendar for I haven't had no, I haven't have it. No, this is the first time here that did
[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I really wanted to be there, but I know you did duty calls
[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not worried about our lodge because no one's gonna work the polls are too old
[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I will say that cori mcnear chief petty officer is coming to see that from italy
[01:03:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Larry griffith's grant. Uh, yeah
[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Enough you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we
[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, we had him on the show
[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_04]: He was on the show. So he'll be here. He's okay and that is what seven o'clock you got me to retire
[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Larry what do you got coming up? What what go see good iron and lodge meeting the first of october. That's it
[01:03:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay
[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Just three quick items lucas acaritas amd council meeting coming up. We're always looking forward to that
[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I didn't get my calendar going up to bj's for dinner that night. I beg your pardon. Yeah
[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: They got a deal on hot dogs
[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_02]: on the seventh
[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, urico-esher lodge stated meeting
[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And then on the ninth, um, we are going before
[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Some sort of board in cumberland county for our tax abatement hearing
[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: For those of you outside of pennsylvania, did you get yours approved? Yeah, we got ours. Awesome. That's great
[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, pennsylvania modified a law
[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_02]: through the budget bill last time that
[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Permits lodges to seek out tax abatement for their property taxes, which is like boku's money
[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_02]: That will be it bankrupts a lot of lodges. It really does. Yeah, you know
[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Lodges have to sell their buildings because they can't afford the taxes anymore
[01:04:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and so, um
[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: if
[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Ultimately what's going to end up happening is lodges that don't get it
[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_02]: somebody's going to have to bite the bullet and appeal it and
[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Then it'll get taken care of
[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Josh is waving. I guess that means it's time to wrap this show up
[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_02]: That's not what that means. Okay
[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_02]: all right
[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_02]: So guys, uh, good show. Good to see you all. Uh, we look forward to having you back
[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, a couple weeks go out there and have a funnel cake
[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes
[01:05:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Go out amongst the people have fun all cake. Do good. Am I not doing the closing?
[01:05:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, just hold your horses guys. Just close the dam. Hold the chickens. Hold his chickens. Hold his chickens. All right
[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_07]: This recording will close and stand closed until the moving of the chickens. All right, do it lady
[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Special thanks to after the lodge
[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_04]: 665
[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_04]: to joshlandberton our
[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_04]: producer director
[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Who spoke tonight the most he ever has in 100 shows? No. Yes. Yes. Yes
[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I clocked it jack harley our news director tid deadman or marketing director to michelle snider
[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Doug madenford and austin shifrin our masonic light podcast contributors
[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And to our listeners who always make doing this show worthwhile
[01:05:59] [SPEAKER_04]: This is larry merris, and I say thanks for listening
[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Have fun and do good
[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Well that was supposed to be something different. Okay, this is stem
[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_02]: See you all later. Don't forget
[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_02]: What what do we always say at the end of our show?
[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Have fun. I said have fun. Do good. Oh, okay. Do good. Sorry. You are listening. I was not listening. Why weren't you listening?
[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I work hard at this show
[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And no one listens to me. I can't wait for a festive us. Yes
[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_02]: All right. Bye everybody